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Just look at this guy... by MrEnter Just look at this guy... by MrEnter
He thinks he can tell me how to make a cake!? Doesn't he know that I can make a cake anyway that I want! I bet this person isn't even a real chef! >:[

Does this sound ridiculous? That's because it is. It's about as ridiculous as "this guy thinks he can tell people how to write stories/cartoons!? People can write them any way they want! He isn't even a cartoonist himself!"

Yes, I'm not making tutorials, but the claim is basically the same. It assumes that there isn't things in a story that you have to do to make it complete. I get this one even more than "it's just a cartoon" or "it's just for kids" ones, and it is built on terrible logic. And yes writing is an art, but there's also a craft to it. Like pottery. You need to know how to use the clay, how to let things dry, how to properly use a kiln, etc. For storytelling, you need to know how to use characters, plot, dialogue, etc.

Sorry, it's just that this stuff is kinda beginning to get to me with all of the family stress going on.
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:iconwonkytonkbotty:
WonkyTonkBotty Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
In a nutshell, this thing Mr Enter is talking about is just a mere ad hominem in lite of a real argument, so no one should really be fazed by it.
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wolfzilla88 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014  Student Artist
Heh... Ding Dong cake.
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:iconmoonfire-dovahkiin:
moonfire-dovahkiin Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
that must be why the cake is called giant ding dong
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silversongwriter Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014
Giant ding dong.... lol
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:iconfoulmouthed-fangirl:
Foulmouthed-Fangirl Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014
Geh. Who puts corn syrup in homemade cake, anyway?
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DeethIrteen Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
"You can't tell people what to do! People can write stories any way they want!"

This is often said by people who don't actually give a shit about the story-writing process. Or they think their audience is composed of morons who can't tell whether something has effort or not. If someone really cares about what they're creating, they'd stop and consider how to make it better in every way they can, and whenever the opportunity arises. Great stories take a lot of effort to write.
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DrawtoonzStudio Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
Sorry if I sound stupid, but I don't get what the problem is. Could someone explain?
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:iconelectricalgeek:
Electricalgeek Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
don't feel bad, i don't get the problem either
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Ninjageek234 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014
The problem is people are saying Mr. Enter shouldn't tell people how to make cartoons simply because he wasn't a cartoonist at the time of this post.
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:icondrawtoonzstudio:
DrawtoonzStudio Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
Ah, I just read the description a bit more carefully. I get it now.
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HopelessRomantic999 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Good point, and now I want some cake.
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TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
I hate it when peple defend others from criticism... as a writer myself I find criticism invaluable.  he worst thing you an do to an artist s tell him he is doing good when he isn't!
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ChipThe3rd Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014
Sadly, artists being defended from criticism is how we get into the mess that is modern television.ase in point: Quick! Name one TV celebrity you DON'T think deserves a punch in the mouth!

Hard, isn't it? That's because we live in a world where crap has become art. They'll be putting rolls of toilet paper in art galleries next.
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TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014
A T.V. celebrity who doesn't deserve to be punched in the mouth... um... I don't know... Robin Williams had a T.V. show... does that count?
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:iconchipthe3rd:
ChipThe3rd Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
One LIVING Television celebrity, then?

RIP Robin Williams, we never had a friend like you...
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:icontayzejacksonbell:
TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014
Oh... damn... I don't know then...
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AwesomeFinn1792 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
People who are'nt Kardashians
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:icontayzejacksonbell:
TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014
I dunno about that... there are a lot of non-kardashian scumbags out there!
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Ziggie1o1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
People will defend others from criticism if the thing they're criticizing them for isn't there. Like, criticizing Breadwinners for the shitty animation is fair enough, criticizing the show for, say, turning the characters into aliens doesn't make a lot of sense. 
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TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014
No I know, and I understand that, but I've ran into people who will defend someone from legit criticism with things like "you're not an animator, writer, illustrator etc. So you have no right to criticise" That's what I'm talking about.
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Heart2Heartnet24 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
I completely agree with the idea that anyone can criticize anything. My problems are when people review something and behave in a way that makes them believe they are superior to the work they critique when they themselves have nothing to show for other than reviewing. I'm not saying that Mr. Enter himself falls into this category, but sometimes I feel he ends up nearing the edge of that line.

Some respect, experience, and understanding of why things are from behind the scenes are especially necessary if you're going to talk shit about producers/animators/etc I feel. I mean, you're telling these people that they suck at their job and they should be fired because of it. Someone makes intentionally bad work, like say Madballs? Then sure, we can sort of understand the negative implications that went on behind the scenes. Made on the cheap in order to cater to a demographic with as little effort as possible.

Someone makes a bad SpongeBob episode? I feel the above mentality applies less so. Modern SpongeBob sucks, yes. But there are reasons for the Seasonal Rot outside of the animators and writing team. So calling out those people who probably would want to move on from the show feels less warranted.

I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. So long as Mr. Enter keeps these things in mind, I'll be happy. Now here's to hoping he'll review Episode 278 of One Piece. *sips "coffee"*
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TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
Fair enough
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Ragameechu Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Okay...I don't understand.

You make a good point, but I still don't understand what the cake or anything has to do with it.
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mickeyelric11 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
What happens is that he uses that image of a cake recipe along with the sentence "He thinks he can tell me how to make a cake!? Doesn't he know that I can make a cake anyway that I want! I bet this person isn't even a real chef! >:[". With all that he tries to show how stupid the rolls and haters sound when they nag him for telling the writers how to do their job, with the excuse of saying that writing is an art, so the writers have the right to do their job the way hey want, without any technique or basic knowledges, what is false.

For example, here, if you try to make a cake for the first time of your life, but you have never seen how someone else does them, or even get a recipe, you're going to end up with a pile of ingredients turned into shit. The same with the writer: becaquse they don't knwo how to make good characters, interesting stories, and how to combine these two elements right, they made just shit.

I hope I have helped you. See you!
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Ragameechu Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Good point. :hmm:
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VampireQueenEffeffia Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That is a very good comparison.
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Katcam007 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
I read it as "Giant Dong Cake" :lol:
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Mickey-the-Luxray Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Step 68: Place in oven. Dong may expand, this is normal. Be careful to not overheat, or there may be cream leaks.
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Katcam007 Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014
:lol: LOL!
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ScourgeXEveryoneOTP Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
that cake looks really good
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LIQUIDFGC Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
I don't get it.
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friendsagain2052 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:3
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ThirdServant Featured By Owner Edited Aug 1, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-NRr…;

thirdservant.deviantart.com/ar…

Here's my voice audition for Growing Around, and a draft of my test episode. Thanks for for time. I already sent these to MrEnter, but I thought you might want to see them too.


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FluffyNinja7 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Uh free cake?
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DrawingLamandSam Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Last time I post this but how do you think of this youtu.be/XwTf3xiBG28
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Blueneonkid Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
He cooks chocolate cake when he has a dog icon! The nerve of this guy!
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Selkra Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
Well, a person can like dogs AND chocolate cake. But I see what you mean.
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:iconchenmango:
ChenMango Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
Why not chocolate dog cakes?
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BoyWhoLovesCocaCola Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014
I never saw that until after I read your comment.
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TelevisionGamer Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014
It is funny because the people who use that argument are basically the cake. They are giant ding dongs (an ignorant or foolish person).
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eggs4lyf Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
clapclapclap
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SoundoftheWaves Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Student Artist
Thank you *applause*
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MysteryBandit Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is that literally called a ding dong cake?
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:iconblueneonkid:
Blueneonkid Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, because it's made from a hostess snack called ding-dongs.
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DestinyDecade Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You can make your cake however you like it. You don't have to have it to their liking. Have it towards your own.
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JakeAnderson733 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014   General Artist
You're missing the point. He was being sarcastic when talking about the person with the recipe. He knows he can make the cake how he wants, but he's using a person providing ingredients as a metaphor for a critic. He's showing how ridiculous the arguments made against critics look: "He wants to tell me how to make this kind of cake. I'll make it how I want to, thank you very much" in response to "Here's what I used to make the cake." The writing/critiquing equivalent to this kind of thing would be: "You can't tell people how to write a story. These people can do it however they want" as a response to "I find this kind of storytelling technique to be quite irritating, and here's how I'd do it if I were in your shoes."
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DestinyDecade Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay I guess I did. You're right.
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JakeAnderson733 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014   General Artist
Thank you for getting it... wait, was that intentional or no?
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DestinyDecade Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It wasn't. I get ya.
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